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jstevens1 75 ( +1 | -1 )
In Old Matey's Shadow It's a horrid, sinking feeling, your opponent is threatening mate and it seems you can do nothing about it other than resign or time out. Sometimes that is the case, other times there is a saving move. I have two games in the public annotations gallery called In Old Matey's Shadow Part I, in which I do resign due to unavoidable mate against a player called tomwhufc. I have a happier experience, however, against a fellow Sneaky Knights Team player called Yakky which ends in a perpetual - but this is no bore draw, it is a nailbiter, I have called this one In Old Matey's Shadow Part II.

It has been quite a while since I have posted on this forum.

Happy New Year to you all!

Bye for now.

ccmcacollister 130 ( +1 | -1 )
A clarification ... Hi jstevens, great to see you posting again! I just want to add a clarification of your first sentence ... so newcomers to chess will know you are speaking in a literal sense that those two options exist (and of course a third, to move and get checkmated, perhaps with a nice congratulatory message if you want the game history to show what you said ... since your last "comment" will stay with the game.), rather than anyone uninitiated mistaking this as an encouragement of Time Out as an option.
So, while those are the true, ultimate choices in such situation I just want to point out that it is considered EXTREMELY Bad Chess Etiquette to Time-Out a correspondence Chess game when faced with mate in one. (Or an OTB game for that matter, unless it just happens that there truly is Not time to do otherwise). And is very likely to be considered as such, even if that was not one's intention.
Additionally, if a player's percentage of games lost by Time Out gets too high, or there are too many instances or occasions of Time Out, GK can and has in the past removed players from the site for that. However, IMO it is not something to worry about if you are playing in a usual manner and not incurring T/O's in a deliberate or extremely careless manner. Tho I cannot give you any particular # or % to go by.
Regards All, Craig A.C.
jstevens1 242 ( +1 | -1 )
I don't like timing out either! Hi Craig,

I put the timeout option in because in only my second game on Gameknot my opponent timed out on me in a lost position, this has stuck in my mind ever since. I was a whole queen up and my opponent would have had to have given up his last piece to delay copping Old Matey. He timed out on me. It was horrible having to wait 3 days for him to move. No I do not want to encourage this but these things do happen unfortunately and if you are on the end of a timeout you just have to sit back. I have learned how to use the Conditional Moves facility so if I know I have a forced sequence leading to mate I may set it up and issue my opponent with a Checkmate Advice in the Chat, specifying how many moves and providing analysis copied and pasted from Analyse the Board to demonstrate how the mate will be delivered. I can then sit back and at least think that the points are in the bag whatever my opponent does. I did not put this player on my ignore list but I will not go out of my way to challenge him again unless he comes up with a good reason for the timeout. That applies to everyone else by the way.

As a digression, I do admit to being guilty of late resignation at times but it has sometimes saved me a few points and half points by doing this. However, I do not wish to resign unless I am absolutely certain that I will be checkmated or lose heavy material. I would prefer to resign than be checkmated if I see it coming - if I don't and I cop it, I will have to bite the bullet (this has not happened to me on Gameknot yet touch wood!). At least Analyse the Board tells you whether a check is just a check or whether it is mate - very helpful. When I do resign I will always thank the player for challenging me and I will state in my resignation note whether it is on the grounds of unavoidable mate or ruinous loss of material and may provide analysis of why I will be checkmated or lose a lot of material. That way, I will make clear to my opponent and gameknot that I am not throwing the game to manipulate my rating - I do not believe in this! I will always say "Well Played" at the end because making a mistake is one thing, my opponent seeing it and taking full advantage is another, so I fully believe that my opponent has done well to take full advantage and to convert it into a won position.

I will do everything I can to avoid timing out and I usually make my moves quickly and ensure that my vacation flag is set up properly before I go away on holiday.

Anyway Craig, have you seen the games?

Cheers and bye for now.

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tim_b 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Late resignations. I think a late resignation is always better than a premature one. There have been a few times when I've quickly resigned in what seemed to be a hopeless position. But a fresh look at the game overnight and I find a possible escape, but too late!

BTW I've only had one opponent deliberately time out in a lost position, so when it does happen, I think it's just a rare bit of bad luck.
lighttotheright 144 ( +1 | -1 )
I don't timeout. I noticed that some people keep playing as if I eventually will.

The polite thing to do is just resign. One time I resigned in a materially equal position; but it still was a lost game. I was playing someone above 2200; he knew he had me. But with a lesser player, I would have continued playing. I resigned quickly to start a new game with him without wasting either of our time. In the second game, I pulled out a draw.

That reminds me. I once was offered a draw and immediately accepted it without doing a complete analysis of the new position. After my move, it was a forced draw, so I thought it still was. Yet, he made a subtle mistake on the move when he offered me the draw. I didn't realize until after I accepted the draw that I really had a slight advantage in the game. It was not obvious; but it was there. I think that I might have been able to press the advantage for a win instead. It would not have been easy.

The point is that you need to do a complete analysis before you either resign or accept/offer a draw.

Playing some 2200+ players has taught me to not give up on a game so early. I've been beaten when I thought I could hold out for a draw. Sometimes it is not so easy. But then again, I haven't played people this good in quite a while. I used to get a way with many positions that I knew I should have paid dearly but did not!